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Re: The Really Big One.. Zags
DaTruRochin wrote:That was ONE play 2 years ago, he has done very little of note since... the Zag board constituents wouldn't be calling for a freshman PG to be running the team if Goodsen was doing a good job...
Side note: Ball handling isn't just the ability to dribble around people, its also about creating looks for others, Goodsen doesn't do that consistently at all. and um Stepp and Dickau were both very good passers and handlers, quickness isn't a requirement (just look at John Stockton, not particularly quick, but I'd say he was passable at ballhandling and passing). But yeah, their depth at shooting from distance is definitely lacking this year, not that you necessarily need that to win.
I THINK JASONN SHOULD BRING THE BALL UP THE COURT AND TIM SHOULD POST AND PLAY THE MIDDLE WITH LUKE OR KRAMER.... .
Johnny Zaggette
PS- pls zag fans who read the board regular and are friends of the board...its a funny ,,not intended for you. Just the ones whom have jumped on the bandwagon and offer advice to Mark Few or a player...(Like any current Zag player is allowed, or any coach has time to read a fan message boardL) Because we Pilot fans know that Rev reads this board everyday voraciously, before heading to practice and/or Chalk Talk....
MesaPilot1- Playmaker
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Game day. Time to get serious... protect our house. Go Pilots!
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Make those PuppY's squeal and cry@@@@, all while mantaining good University of Portland Sportsmanship!!! oxymoron or what?
MesaPilot1- Playmaker
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Well, the last 8pm start time had me up until 2am to watch us squeak out the double OT victory. I would be thrilled to do the same tonight.....
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I'll settle for a win in regulation, thankyouverymuch.Rochin54 wrote:Well, the last 8pm start time had me up until 2am to watch us squeak out the double OT victory. I would be thrilled to do the same tonight.....
I'm too young to go on blood pressure meds!
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Rochin54 wrote:Well, the last 8pm start time had me up until 2am to watch us squeak out the double OT victory. I would be thrilled to do the same tonight.....
Amen! I have to say that I like our chances more than I've liked them at any time in the past 3 seasons. Last year we lost at home in one of our closest games of the year. I expect this to be another close game like the LMU game that goes down to the wire. For many seasons now, Gonzaga has given us more match up problems than any team in the WCC.
I think that Timmy D. is good enough to negate or win the point guard match up with anyone in the WCC on his best nights, and he'll continue to probably be better at home than on the road. We probably don't have anyone who can match up with Sacre...unless Hannibal suddenly has an amazing game (like when he played Samhan to a standstill in previous seasons). In all honesty, we probably need Elias Harris or Stephen Gray to have an off game to win. But, that's been happening a lot this season. Harris was coming back from an injury at the beginning of the season and hasn't always been himself, and Gray has really never been quite as good as he was earlier in his GU career in my opinion. We're due to have a game against Gonzaga when we roll on all cylinders. Let's send them back to Spokane Vegas!
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By the way, here's a stat for you: Gonzaga is statistically the worst team at defending the 3-point shot in the nation: 286th even though they lead the WCC in field goal defense:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/collegesports/2014112854_natwithers03.html
So, they are defending shots, but, struggling with the deepest perimeter shots. We shot well against them in Spokane. If we limit turnovers, we can do this...
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Re: The Really Big One.. Zags
Gonna go get ready for this.
It has been many years since I have gone to one of these games without thinking
It could still happen, of course, a big stumble in any game is possible. But even Zag fans know this year is different. They are in a little trouble, and we have a new confidence and are finally a team to be feared at home.
I hope we win, but either way, I'd like to see zag games turn into real contests, not just "good tries"
I think we take this one.
GO PILOTS
It has been many years since I have gone to one of these games without thinking
jees, I hope we don't get embarrassed badly
It could still happen, of course, a big stumble in any game is possible. But even Zag fans know this year is different. They are in a little trouble, and we have a new confidence and are finally a team to be feared at home.
I hope we win, but either way, I'd like to see zag games turn into real contests, not just "good tries"
I think we take this one.
GO PILOTS
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Good Luck tonight Pilots !
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Refs made this a close first half. We can't even get a call on our home court. Pathetic.
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&%#$@#$
Too many easy misses... And those 2 early fouls on Kramer KILLED us, Jasonn is good in spurts, but in extended minutes he's just flat out too slow. Ugh that 6-7 minute lull mid way through the second half where we just lost our minds was no good. Great effort coming back, but man... Snap judgement: Missed opportunity.
Side note: Demitri Goodson may as well transfer now, it's David Stockton's team (that smarmy cro magnon browed snot...)
I'm irrationally lashing out, what can I say, the Z*** bring out the worst in me.
Too many easy misses... And those 2 early fouls on Kramer KILLED us, Jasonn is good in spurts, but in extended minutes he's just flat out too slow. Ugh that 6-7 minute lull mid way through the second half where we just lost our minds was no good. Great effort coming back, but man... Snap judgement: Missed opportunity.
Side note: Demitri Goodson may as well transfer now, it's David Stockton's team (that smarmy cro magnon browed snot...)
I'm irrationally lashing out, what can I say, the Z*** bring out the worst in me.
Last edited by DaTruRochin on Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:16 pm; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Z*** is a 4 letter word)
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67-64 loss... Definitely a team loss: shot selection, turnovers, missed layups...and then those missed free throws by Sikma and Mitrovic toward the end were painful among other things. The guys played hard though, and the fans definitely did their part. How many more close losses can we have to these guys? Something has got to give...
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The students section is aggravating to me. We are reactionary.
The Pilots score and we get jacked up. That isn't the way it should be.
We should ALWAYS be loud, ESPECIALLY when the Pilots aren't scoring. We need to will THEM to win!!!
GAHHH!
The Pilots score and we get jacked up. That isn't the way it should be.
We should ALWAYS be loud, ESPECIALLY when the Pilots aren't scoring. We need to will THEM to win!!!
GAHHH!
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Re: The Really Big One.. Zags
onetouchfutbol wrote:67-64 loss... Definitely a team loss: shot selection, turnovers, missed layups...and then those missed free throws by Sikma and Mitrovic toward the end were painful among other things. The guys played hard though, and the fans definitely did their part. How many more close losses can we have to these guys? Something has got to give...
Tough loss tonight, but your team played well. I think the energy expended in the first half explosion really was tough to maintain. I told my wife that I'm glad you had that explosion in the first half rather than the second like you did against SMC. The zags wouldn't have been able to recover in time. It took over 20 minutes to recover from.
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adoptedzag wrote:onetouchfutbol wrote:67-64 loss... Definitely a team loss: shot selection, turnovers, missed layups...and then those missed free throws by Sikma and Mitrovic toward the end were painful among other things. The guys played hard though, and the fans definitely did their part. How many more close losses can we have to these guys? Something has got to give...
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Tough loss tonight, but your team played well. I think the energy expended in the first half explosion really was tough to maintain. I told my wife that I'm glad you had that explosion in the first half rather than the second like you did against SMC. The zags wouldn't have been able to recover in time. It took over 20 minutes to recover from.
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Stomping on the P after the game is a pretty low brow, classless move. You've won 10 straight titles? Act like it.
Poor form Z***, poor form.
Poor form Z***, poor form.
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Must not be a very good season if beating a mid-table team is cause for jumping around like you won the conference.DaTruRochin wrote:Stomping on the P after the game is a pretty low brow, classless move. You've won 10 straight titles? Act like it.
Poor form Z***, poor form.
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I hope that Zags coach Few has the common sense to send a formal apology to the U of P for his teams actions after the game ended. I know that Coach Reveno would not have tolerated the same action by the Pilots.PurplePrideTrumpet wrote:Must not be a very good season if beating a mid-table team is cause for jumping around like you won the conference.DaTruRochin wrote:Stomping on the P after the game is a pretty low brow, classless move. You've won 10 straight titles? Act like it.
Poor form Z***, poor form.
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Well...I will say the Zags have huddled at mid-court for years regardless of where they are playing. However--I don't like teams doing that on the road. It's not your court. Acknowledge your fans and walk off calmly. Come to think of it that's what the Pilots did at PSU.
Few is probably too busy writing a letter to Libby about how the refs don't bow and scrape enough anymore.
Few is probably too busy writing a letter to Libby about how the refs don't bow and scrape enough anymore.
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I remember when a zag team with Adam Morrison (gasp) went to mid court and applauded the Pilots fans. I think it was Rev's first year. That was classy, even if it was Morrison.
This bunch of jerks is not.
This bunch of jerks is not.
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ShipstadPilot11 wrote:The students section is aggravating to me. We are reactionary.
The Pilots score and we get jacked up. That isn't the way it should be.
We should ALWAYS be loud, ESPECIALLY when the Pilots aren't scoring. We need to will THEM to win!!!
GAHHH!
Don't get down on yourself. The student section was all over it tonight - way more so than I have perhaps ever seen them. Let's maintain this enthusiasm for the rest of conference. And the start of another big home win streak.
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Oregonian article:
That last sentence just really disheartened me... As if the game didn't enough already...
The Gonzaga Bulldogs continued their domination of the Portland Pilots Thursday night at the Chiles Center.
Robert Sacre scored a game-high 17 points and Steve Gray added 15, leading the Bulldogs to a 67-64 West Coast Conference victory over the Pilots before a sellout crowd of 4,852.
David Stockton finished with 12 points and six assists, helping pace the Bulldogs (15-8, 5-3 WCC) to their 16th consecutive win over the Pilots and 15th in a row at the Chiles Center.
“It should hurt a little bit,” Pilots coach Eric Reveno said. “And it’s not because Gonzaga is Gonzaga or the record is what it is now, but it’s because we’re in a conference race and trying to compete.
“It’s disappointing, because I feel we could have made a few plays here or there and managed it a little better and got the win.”
The loss was especially tough for Luke Sikma and Portland’s other seniors to swallow, knowing that their only hope to ever beat Gonzaga during their careers is if they meet up again in next month's WCC Tournament in Las Vegas.
“This one definitely stinks,” said Sikma, who finished with 14 points and a game-high 16 rebounds. “If we want to get where we want to get, we’re likely to see them again. So, we’ve got to turn the page on this one, as tough as that might be.”
There was obviously a big-game atmosphere with the building being sold out for the first time this season, ESPN2 in the house, and an animated student section clad in "This Is Our House" t-shirts and Waving "We Zig (Not Zag)" sign cards.
The Pilots gave the crowd plenty to cheer about early, going 6 for 10 from the field, including 5 for 5 from three-point range, and jumping in front 14-7 after the first six minutes.
After Portland’s initial outburst, the game turned physical, which seemed to suit the Bulldogs more than it did the Pilots.
At one point, the Pilots turned the ball over five times in eight possessions and the Bulldogs went on a 14-3 run to pull within a point, 25—24, on Sacre’s turnaround jumper with 3:13 left in the half.
The Pilots never lost the lead and went to halftime leading 34-28 led by Jared Stohl’s 11 points and Sikma’s 10 points and 10 rebounds.
Sacre had 10 points to lead the Bulldogs, whose biggest issue coming out of the break was that reserves Marquise and Kelly Olynyk had three fouls each.
Aside from that, Gonzaga had a 22-8 advantage in points in the paint and had surrendered only one other three-pointer after the Pilots’ initial flurry. So although the Bulldogs trailed at the break, there was a sense that the momentum was swinging their direction.
“There were a bunch of balls we didn’t get to in the first half,” Gonzaga coach Mark Few said. “So we went with guys that had shown they were going to go get the ball.”
Portland’s lead was 39-35 when Jasonn Hannibal made one of two free throws with 15:26 remaining. But then the Pilots scored only one basket over the next six minutes and the Bulldogs went on a 16-2 run to seize control.
Near the end of the run, the Pilots committed five turnovers over five consecutive possessions and saw Gonzaga’s lead go from 44-41 to 51-41 with 9:30 to play.
“We were stuck at 41 for a couple minutes there,” Sikma said. “We’ve got to find a way to take care of the ball even when we’re not scoring and make sure we get defensive stops. Those kind of go hand in hand -– if you take care of the ball, they can’t get out on the run and get easy baskets.”
Tim Douglas hit a three-pointer to pull the Pilots within 60-56 with 2:03 remaining, and then scored on a lay-in that made it 63-61 with 12 seconds play, but Gray answered with four consecutive free throws to putt the game out of reach.
“It was a game of swings where we got up early and we didn’t manage that lead well,” Reveno said. “People will talk about, ‘Oh, that’s the night you could have had Gonzaga.’ But we lost to them by three (81-78) here last year, too.
“This team is pretty good, and I think we were a play or two away, and that was disappointing. Give Gonzaga credit, too. They changed how they played a little bit and got physical, and they really tried to go at us inside.”
Stohl finished with 16 points and moved up to ninth place among Portland’s all-time scorers with 1,274 points, passing Floyd Banks (1,262) and Quentin Braxton (1,266).
Notes: Senior center Kramer Knutson made his 112th career start for the Pilots Thursday, tying the all-time career mark first set by Dionn Holton (1994-98). … Former Pilots golf coach and sports information director Mauro Potestio, who was recognized during Sunday’s 2010 Oregon Sports Awards with the first Ultimate Fan Award, missed Thursday’s game because of illness, ending his string of 898 consecutive home games.
That last sentence just really disheartened me... As if the game didn't enough already...
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Re: The Really Big One.. Zags
Much of the above is true: opportunities were blown, the student section disorganization and the proliferation of "tourists" made the students less effective on key possessions, and the many zag players lack class.
However, I feel like the only person not rooting for the Zags who is not crushed by what happened on the floor. Sure, all those things have happened before, but they did what they did not do in spokanne the last two years: rally from a 10-point deficit. They cut the deficit to 2 with less than a minute left. They did not give up until the final whistle. This is a game I will remember for many bad reasons but also for the great examples of greatness tonight from the flash mob to the rally to little Quinn's Dougieing to making Jared smile a little after the game after telling him how proud I was of them for the rally.
A loss was expected; we were privileged to see an incredible game against a still physical team that preserved the status quo. Let's see how this goes in Vegas.
This season is far from over, there are three more weeks to finish strong. Neither is this fight against the Zags. They guys remained classy in defeat and have plenty of experience to rebound and rally over the rest of conference play. The conference season has lead to a large deficit; I trust the team to fight on even though an extra day of practice in Vegas seems in jeopardy.
Hopefully the students can show up in force for USF and Santa Clara, the guys will need all they can get!
The only thing I am not pleased with was Mauro Potestio's health. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. 898 games is an testament to fanhood. Think about all he has seen in those 61 seasons. To honor him and Clive, let's embrace the good that happened and have an awesome Saturday as the guys take on Seattle!
Pilots 'Til I Die!
However, I feel like the only person not rooting for the Zags who is not crushed by what happened on the floor. Sure, all those things have happened before, but they did what they did not do in spokanne the last two years: rally from a 10-point deficit. They cut the deficit to 2 with less than a minute left. They did not give up until the final whistle. This is a game I will remember for many bad reasons but also for the great examples of greatness tonight from the flash mob to the rally to little Quinn's Dougieing to making Jared smile a little after the game after telling him how proud I was of them for the rally.
A loss was expected; we were privileged to see an incredible game against a still physical team that preserved the status quo. Let's see how this goes in Vegas.
This season is far from over, there are three more weeks to finish strong. Neither is this fight against the Zags. They guys remained classy in defeat and have plenty of experience to rebound and rally over the rest of conference play. The conference season has lead to a large deficit; I trust the team to fight on even though an extra day of practice in Vegas seems in jeopardy.
Hopefully the students can show up in force for USF and Santa Clara, the guys will need all they can get!
The only thing I am not pleased with was Mauro Potestio's health. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. 898 games is an testament to fanhood. Think about all he has seen in those 61 seasons. To honor him and Clive, let's embrace the good that happened and have an awesome Saturday as the guys take on Seattle!
Pilots 'Til I Die!
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I never boo the opposing team. Tonight I did, after their classless act post-game.Purplegeezer wrote:I remember when a zag team with Adam Morrison (gasp) went to mid court and applauded the Pilots fans. I think it was Rev's first year. That was classy, even if it was Morrison.
This bunch of jerks is not.
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DJ Sherman wrote:Much of the above is true: opportunities were blown, the student section disorganization and the proliferation of "tourists" made the students less effective on key possessions, and the many zag players lack class.
However, I feel like the only person not rooting for the Zags who is not crushed by what happened on the floor. Sure, all those things have happened before, but they did what they did not do in spokanne the last two years: rally from a 10-point deficit. They cut the deficit to 2 with less than a minute left. They did not give up until the final whistle. This is a game I will remember for many bad reasons but also for the great examples of greatness tonight from the flash mob to the rally to little Quinn's Dougieing to making Jared smile a little after the game after telling him how proud I was of them for the rally.
A loss was expected; we were privileged to see an incredible game against a still physical team that preserved the status quo. Let's see how this goes in Vegas.
This season is far from over, there are three more weeks to finish strong. Neither is this fight against the Zags. They guys remained classy in defeat and have plenty of experience to rebound and rally over the rest of conference play. The conference season has lead to a large deficit; I trust the team to fight on even though an extra day of practice in Vegas seems in jeopardy.
Hopefully the students can show up in force for USF and Santa Clara, the guys will need all they can get!
The only thing I am not pleased with was Mauro Potestio's health. Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers. 898 games is an testament to fanhood. Think about all he has seen in those 61 seasons. To honor him and Clive, let's embrace the good that happened and have an awesome Saturday as the guys take on Seattle!
Pilots 'Til I Die!
well said Stoney the 2nd...after all it is just a game and I am sure to keep Mr Potestio's health in my PROTESTANT prayers!
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