Rev on Lin
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Rev on Lin
Not sure if anyone saw this from Rev's twitter but he is used as a source on Dave Telep's story on Jeremey Lin coming out of High School. Some interesting stuff here
the link: (it is espn insider so i just posted the whole story below)
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post/_/id/927/harvard-was-the-right-choice-for-jeremy-lin
the link: (it is espn insider so i just posted the whole story below)
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post/_/id/927/harvard-was-the-right-choice-for-jeremy-lin
By Dave Telep
Over the weekend I nervously checked my files. Admittedly, I didn’t know if I wanted to find notes on Jeremy Lin or not. What if I had actually seen him and rated him poorly? Well, it’s happened before and it will in the future. However, I’m relieved to say that I didn’t see him. Turns out those that did see him in high school couldn’t have predicted what he is doing with the New York Knicks.
I’ve known Portland Pilots head coach Eric Reveno for the last 15 years. I consider him to be a skilled evaluator and thorough when it comes to recruiting. He was an assistant at Stanford when Lin played within a few football fields of campus. As well as I know “Rev” he knows me and the style by which I evaluate, so I asked him what he thought I would have given Lin.
“In your one-line deal you would have said something like low-major plus but not the kind of kid you’d bet against,” Reveno said.
Seems like that was about the consensus of Lin as a senior. The local low- and mid-major schools weren’t interested -- not only because they weren’t sure he could play for them but academically, this kid was going to an elite institution.
Stanford wanted him to walk-on, which seemed pretty fair given what I’ve heard regarding his high school career the past few days.
“He looked like a guy you’d like to have walk-on at Stanford; a guy Harvard would love to have,” Reveno said. “Back in the Stanford heyday, he wasn’t someone … well, you maybe would give him a scholarship but that was because of fit not because of overall ability. He was good, he was a winner.
“We wanted him to walk-on and he would have been good for us as a walk-on but they were hoping for a scholarship. He would have been great to have and he could have been one of those guys that wound up with a scholarship. To me though, the choice he made was low risk, let alone with a Harvard education. Basketball-wise, it was the lowest-risk choice.”
As a freshman at Harvard, Lin played 18 minutes a game and averaged 4.8 points on a team that went 12-16. Tommy Amaker took over the reins of the program during Lin’s sophomore season and that’s the first time then-Harvard and current VCU assistant Will Wade was introduced to Lin.
Amaker was happy to have him in the fold but it wasn’t until a year later that he told Wade that Lin might be able to make it as a pro.
“During his junior year he was really good and that’s when Coach Amaker said he could make money playing basketball,” Wade said. “He started getting confidence his junior year. We believed he was better than he thought he was. He didn’t know how good he was.”
Reveno makes a great point. What if Lin had signed with a big school? Would his confidence have been able to get on track? Wade said they had more confidence in Lin than he did in his own game. That line of thinking opens the door to similar players in similar circumstances. Would Steph Curry have turned into Steph Curry “giant killer” had he gone to Virginia Tech and not played as a freshman? How much is experience -- which leads to confidence -- worth in the development of talent?
“The lesson for me is the value of going to a place that’s right for you,” Reveno said. “Had he gone higher he would be working at a desk right now. Just my opinion. I don’t know if he would have played at Stanford. Maybe he scraps and fights but maybe he doesn’t blossom that way. He went somewhere he could play for four years.”
There’s a profile myself and Drew Cannon have been working on for a few years regarding mid-major players. While it is impossible to project with certain accuracy, we’re finding these gems have some common traits and they aren’t as complicated as one might expect.
Coachable with outstanding basketball IQ (Lin. check)
Well-liked by coaches, teammates and staff at school (Lin. check)
winner's resume in HS (Lin beat Mater Dei for title)
Exceptionally competitive (Lin. check)
Exceptional work ethic (Lin. check)
Big-time AAU background not needed (Lin didn't play on a major squad)
50 percent of the guys we looked at put on 20 pounds in college (he put on weight at Harvard)
Obviously there's more to picking standouts than the above reasons but when combined with the requisite talent, we're finding that you can often peek into the future. At the least, you can subscribe to the theories and cultivate your team culture via guys like this.
Reveno said there was little chance Lin could have physically played in the Pac-12 as a freshman. The same could have been said regarding Curry coming out of high school. To me, that experience lends itself to confidence, which seems to be the igniter for a storied career.
Lin was good at Harvard – better by the year – but he was never the top player in his league. “He wasn’t even the Ivy League player of the year any of the years he was there,” Wade said.
Well, he’s on the big stage now. Will it last? “The reason he’s been successful is because he has a good arrogance, a confidence about him and expects big things of himself,” Reveno said.
At this point, he’s got everyone’s attention.
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Maybe that's why all our young players looked so skinny against LMU. Thanks for the post!Reveno said there was little chance Lin could have physically played in the Pac-12 as a freshman. The same could have been said regarding Curry coming out of high school. To me, that experience lends itself to confidence, which seems to be the igniter for a storied career.
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Excellent insight from Telep.
I can just hear Rev talking to K.B. or Thomas and their parents, and telling them, "You'll have a chance to PLAY at UP."
I just hope Jeremy Lin can continue to play at a high level. Many would not even give the NBA a second look except when people like Lin emerge; much like many don't pay attention to golf unless Tiger is playing.
I can just hear Rev talking to K.B. or Thomas and their parents, and telling them, "You'll have a chance to PLAY at UP."
I just hope Jeremy Lin can continue to play at a high level. Many would not even give the NBA a second look except when people like Lin emerge; much like many don't pay attention to golf unless Tiger is playing.
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[quote="Maybe that's why all our young players looked so skinny against LMU. Thanks for the post![/quote]
Referring to the freshmen? Ryan and Derrick dont look skinny compared to anyone in the WCC and Tanner Riley has a solid build as well.
Referring to the freshmen? Ryan and Derrick dont look skinny compared to anyone in the WCC and Tanner Riley has a solid build as well.
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