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Re: Current state of the program
Speaking of addition: go jc Rev; do your best to bring in a player or apparently two who can have an immediate positive affect.
wrv- Playmaker
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Are you guys getting a large visitor?
@CoachReveno wrote:Heading back to LV to cheer on our women's team as they advance in tourney and to have some meetings with great supporters of our program.
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Thomas is still in Las Vegas. He was at the women's game yesterday. I also counted the roster after reading Rev's tweet, and was going to post about that, but didn't. Sorry.PilotNut wrote:Only 11 meetings...? There would be 12 "returning" players to meet with: K. Bailey, J. Bailey, Ryno, Barker, Tanner, Ahern, van der Mars, Pressley, Thieleke, Carr, Ehlers & Oskars... who doesn't get a meeting? Carr (due to injury)? Oskars (suspension)? Is Oskars fate already settled?
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DeanMurdoch wrote:Are you guys getting a large visitor?@CoachReveno wrote:Heading back to LV to cheer on our women's team as they advance in tourney and to have some meetings with great supporters of our program.
The one year Nut and I don't show up
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blacksheep wrote:DeanMurdoch wrote:Are you guys getting a large visitor?@CoachReveno wrote:Heading back to LV to cheer on our women's team as they advance in tourney and to have some meetings with great supporters of our program.
The one year Nut and I don't show up
He said he is meeting supporters of the program....
Get your wallets out.
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Doesn't the WCC have meetings over the weekend? That is what I assumed with that Tweet, but I could be wrong... Meetings with WCC Admin, sponsors, etc... Rev's meetings with the PN Executive Team are yet to be scheduled!
Did anyone else catch Colin Pfaff's re-tweet yesterday? Colby Blaine is an Asst. Coach at the College of Southern Idaho:
Did anyone else catch Colin Pfaff's re-tweet yesterday? Colby Blaine is an Asst. Coach at the College of Southern Idaho:
Hmmm, anyone have a moment to glance at CSI's current roster?Colby Blaine @CBlaineCSI
@ColinPfaff good to see you at our tournament! Hope we can help you soon, yall have a GREAT program!
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PilotNut wrote:Hmmm, anyone have a moment to glance at CSI's current roster?
In a surprise development (note: not actually a surprise) I had nothing better to do while crushing a pizza for lunch. Here's the CSI run down:
Two main shooters on CSI - James Reid (from Mountain View in Bend) and Jaysean Paige (from New York). Both are only freshman, though? I thought Juco transfers had to finish their two-year degree there, and both players are just one year out of HS.
Also got a guy named Montigo Alford who is a redshirt freshman, which would mean he'd have three years in the NCAA. Listed as a 5-9 guard and is shooting 51% (!) from three-point range, but only 37 attempts on the year. Montigo's out of Fontana Summit HS in Bloomington.
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Juco guys only have to finish their two-year degree if they were a non-qualifier coming out of high school. Derrick Rodgers only had one year at Citrus before transferring to UP.DeanMurdoch wrote:PilotNut wrote:Hmmm, anyone have a moment to glance at CSI's current roster?
In a surprise development (note: not actually a surprise) I had nothing better to do while crushing a pizza for lunch. Here's the CSI run down:
Two main shooters on CSI - James Reid (from Mountain View in Bend) and Jaysean Paige (from New York). Both are only freshman, though? I thought Juco transfers had to finish their two-year degree there, and both players are just one year out of HS.
Also got a guy named Montigo Alford who is a redshirt freshman, which would mean he'd have three years in the NCAA. Listed as a 5-9 guard and is shooting 51% (!) from three-point range, but only 37 attempts on the year. Montigo's out of Fontana Summit HS in Bloomington.
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Too late! The blackjack dealers beat him too it!PurpleGeezer wrote:blacksheep wrote:DeanMurdoch wrote:Are you guys getting a large visitor?@CoachReveno wrote:Heading back to LV to cheer on our women's team as they advance in tourney and to have some meetings with great supporters of our program.
The one year Nut and I don't show up
He said he is meeting supporters of the program....
Get your wallets out.
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up7587 wrote:Juco guys only have to finish their two-year degree if they were a non-qualifer coming out of high school. Derrick Rodgers only had one year at Citrus before transferring to UP.
Thank you. I had no idea what the rule was there.
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Thomas has NOT been interviewed!PurpleGeezer wrote:The new math.
Addition by subtraction.
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Good to clear that up. I am sure that Rev & he will meet up soon, if not today while both are in Vegas.
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I was at the meeting and Rev wasn't there. Maybe I had the wrong room?
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I just had MY interview with Rev, seriously, but it didn't last anywhere close to 30 minutes after he asked me if I "could shoot the 3."up7587 wrote:Dean, I agree.@CoachReveno wrote:Just finished 11 thirty minute player meetings. Communication builds trust, trust builds commitment, commitment builds teamwork. Growth.
But his question DID give me some insight into what he's looking for.
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I'm told Oskars' interview lasted a lot longer than 30 minutes.
Apparently the team wants him back AND the coaching staff wants him back too and "will go to bat for him," but it's up to the "school."
Apparently the team wants him back AND the coaching staff wants him back too and "will go to bat for him," but it's up to the "school."
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O, BTW, Oskars tuns 19 tomorrow----how many of us were given multiple second chances as teen agers? And if we hadn't gotten those second chances---where would we be today?
I wouldn't be a UP graduate---that is for sure!!!
I wouldn't be a UP graduate---that is for sure!!!
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I used up my second chances before I got out middle school.
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Miscellaneous Thoughts
1. Derrick stepped up to a whole new level of play this year after Carr went down. He, and the Pilots, were far more likely to be at their best when he ran the ball up the court. He controlled the team’s energy level. When LMU players could have coffee and a smoke waiting for Derrick to get the ball to half court, it’s no surprise we lost in Vegas.
2. The other reason it wasn’t a surprise – my wife predicted a loss before the game began when she observed Rev looked grouchy and the players didn’t seem happy or enthusiastic.
3. Never understood the offensive play that starts with lining up across the free throw line. Other than waste time and show the men could line up as straight as the dance team, what was the point?
4. While we saw individual player improvement over the season from a number of the guys, we didn’t appear to improve as a team.
5. Reveno’s oft quoted remark about “defense determines who wins the game and offense by how much” only applies when you have an offense.
6. How many offensive plays do we actually have?
7. The last few games of the year, I preferred to watch the second team for the few minutes they were in together. They ran, they passed, they moved, and they all took shots – even if they missed, they looked like a team with a purpose and one having fun at a game they love.
8. I’m just guessing here, but I doubt any of these kids were reluctant to shoot the ball in high school. Why does it look like Kevin, Ryan, and Thomas are the only players with a green light, and an expectation, to shoot?
9. I agree whole-heartedly with the post that suggested a preference for summer pics of these kids taking 2000 shots a day instead of pushing tractor tires. Yes, there needs to be strength and conditioning. Let’s face it though, they could all look like Chippendales, but if they can’t hit a three point shot (hell, even a shot outside the paint); our rank in the conference ain’t gonna change (though attendance might pick up).
10. Keep hearing about Tanner being a streak shooter. I feel for him. Think of the pressure he’s under knowing he gets a couple shots and if one doesn’t fall, he’s out. I’ve watched Kevin Pangos, Anthony Ireland, Johnny Dee, Cody Doolin all have bad shooting games and their minutes don’t change much. Make a commitment here. He’s the best three point shooter on the team.
11. We desperately need a true point guard (though Carr has done a great job stepping in, it’s not his natural position).
12. I’m not buying that the problem is the quality of the recruits until I see the quality of our coaching improve.
13. I love Reveno, but he hasn’t delivered. Even in our 20 win seasons, we didn’t do anything post season. He’s a quality guy, deep thinker, and great defensive coach – so what to do? A. The whole crew goes and we start over? B. Some of them go (we get a new assistant that knows offense)? C. They get a last chance agreement? Personally, my preference is B – C – A.
14. And one last thing. The cheer squad is great. It’s wonderful to see they have new outfits. I remember a few years ago, there was one outfit and it looked out of date. They do great routines. But here’s my observation – look around the arena. Besides empty seats, what do you see? A pretty diverse crowd in terms of age. How about playing to them. I don’t know what today’s music is called, but really how about some variety – blues, jazz, country, hits from 30 to 50 years ago, I don’t care. Pick a tune your parents listened to. St. Mary’s did a couple dances to other music and I loved it. I get tired of routines to music I’ve never heard of and won’t listen to again.
2. The other reason it wasn’t a surprise – my wife predicted a loss before the game began when she observed Rev looked grouchy and the players didn’t seem happy or enthusiastic.
3. Never understood the offensive play that starts with lining up across the free throw line. Other than waste time and show the men could line up as straight as the dance team, what was the point?
4. While we saw individual player improvement over the season from a number of the guys, we didn’t appear to improve as a team.
5. Reveno’s oft quoted remark about “defense determines who wins the game and offense by how much” only applies when you have an offense.
6. How many offensive plays do we actually have?
7. The last few games of the year, I preferred to watch the second team for the few minutes they were in together. They ran, they passed, they moved, and they all took shots – even if they missed, they looked like a team with a purpose and one having fun at a game they love.
8. I’m just guessing here, but I doubt any of these kids were reluctant to shoot the ball in high school. Why does it look like Kevin, Ryan, and Thomas are the only players with a green light, and an expectation, to shoot?
9. I agree whole-heartedly with the post that suggested a preference for summer pics of these kids taking 2000 shots a day instead of pushing tractor tires. Yes, there needs to be strength and conditioning. Let’s face it though, they could all look like Chippendales, but if they can’t hit a three point shot (hell, even a shot outside the paint); our rank in the conference ain’t gonna change (though attendance might pick up).
10. Keep hearing about Tanner being a streak shooter. I feel for him. Think of the pressure he’s under knowing he gets a couple shots and if one doesn’t fall, he’s out. I’ve watched Kevin Pangos, Anthony Ireland, Johnny Dee, Cody Doolin all have bad shooting games and their minutes don’t change much. Make a commitment here. He’s the best three point shooter on the team.
11. We desperately need a true point guard (though Carr has done a great job stepping in, it’s not his natural position).
12. I’m not buying that the problem is the quality of the recruits until I see the quality of our coaching improve.
13. I love Reveno, but he hasn’t delivered. Even in our 20 win seasons, we didn’t do anything post season. He’s a quality guy, deep thinker, and great defensive coach – so what to do? A. The whole crew goes and we start over? B. Some of them go (we get a new assistant that knows offense)? C. They get a last chance agreement? Personally, my preference is B – C – A.
14. And one last thing. The cheer squad is great. It’s wonderful to see they have new outfits. I remember a few years ago, there was one outfit and it looked out of date. They do great routines. But here’s my observation – look around the arena. Besides empty seats, what do you see? A pretty diverse crowd in terms of age. How about playing to them. I don’t know what today’s music is called, but really how about some variety – blues, jazz, country, hits from 30 to 50 years ago, I don’t care. Pick a tune your parents listened to. St. Mary’s did a couple dances to other music and I loved it. I get tired of routines to music I’ve never heard of and won’t listen to again.
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Great stuff, Bullwinkle! Thank you for posting... not much to disagree with.
If others have random thoughts, please post them! If we don't let the U know how we feel, how is anything ever going to change?!! Also, a reminder to let the Athletic Director, Scott Leykam, know how you feel! His contact information is on the UP site, here.
If others have random thoughts, please post them! If we don't let the U know how we feel, how is anything ever going to change?!! Also, a reminder to let the Athletic Director, Scott Leykam, know how you feel! His contact information is on the UP site, here.
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14) the guy who sits in back of me has been grousing all year that the dancers only dance to the student side of the court, even when there are no students there.
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PurpleGeezer wrote:14) the guy who sits in back of me has been grousing all year that the dancers only dance to the student side of the court, even when there are no students there.
The UP Dance Team has a Facebook page... and they are responsive. I would recommend that this feedback be given to them directly... I am not sure if it is a conscious decision or not.
They also have a page on the UP site, with some email addresses (and a link to the facebook page): LINK.
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That would have to be somebody else writing.
I'm really not opposed to the umm...
perspective presented.
I'm really not opposed to the umm...
perspective presented.
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#4!!!
#3---I'm so tired of watching them try to set whatever that is up.
#12...I won't argue with improving recruiting, but this team could be much more successful with the same set of kids.
#13
Where are the easy shots? where is the movement? Anyone seen a pick and roll?
If something doesn't work (see #3) make adjustments and move forward. It might make scouting us a little bit more difficult!
Go Pilots!
#3---I'm so tired of watching them try to set whatever that is up.
#12...I won't argue with improving recruiting, but this team could be much more successful with the same set of kids.
#13
Where are the easy shots? where is the movement? Anyone seen a pick and roll?
If something doesn't work (see #3) make adjustments and move forward. It might make scouting us a little bit more difficult!
Go Pilots!
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bullwinkle wrote:9. I agree whole-heartedly with the post that suggested a preference for summer pics of these kids taking 2000 shots a day instead of pushing tractor tires. Yes, there needs to be strength and conditioning. Let’s face it though, they could all look like Chippendales, but if they can’t hit a three point shot (hell, even a shot outside the paint); our rank in the conference ain’t gonna change (though attendance might pick up).
This point has come up a couple times in this thread. Apparently the NCAA is behind it.
CoachReveno wrote:@CoachReveno: Friend just emailed asking why we dont show off season skill work pictures -because its against NCAA rules. Why weights not? I have no idea.
Go figure.
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Not that THIS helps our program, but we can at least be thankful that we are not at this point.
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