Re: 2021-22 Schedule

by NoPoNeighbor Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:36 pm

I miss the full, balanced conference schedule with travel partners. I liked the rhythm and familiarity that came with that system.

Too bad the WCC continues to hold back Gonzaga from reaching its true potential, thereby making this frankenstein schedule an ongoing necessity. Given that the zags failed to win the national championship last year, perhaps going down to the 14-game WCC schedule is in order?

by DoubleDipper Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:32 pm

Here is the Full Official 2021-22 Men's Basketball Schedule:

Nov. 1 vs. Lewis & Clark (Exhibition), ~~1 PM~~ 7PM
Nov. 9 at Arizona State, TBA
Nov. 11 vs. Willamette^, 7:30 PM (WBB vs UC San Diego, 5 PM)
Nov. 13 vs. Alcorn State^, 5 PM (WBB vs. Weber St., 7:30 PM)
Nov. 18 vs. Arkansas Pine-Bluff, 7 PM
Nov. 20 vs. Morgan State, 7 PM
Nov. 23 at Portland State, TBA
Nov. 26-28 at Incarnate Word Tournament, TBA
Dec. 3 vs. VMI, 7 PM
Dec. 13 vs. Cal Poly, 7 PM
Dec. 15 at Oregon, TBA
Dec. 17 vs. San Jose State, 7 PM
Dec. 19 at Montana State, TBA
Dec. 22 at UC Davis, TBA
Jan. 1 vs. BYU*, TBA
Jan. 6 at LMU*, TBA
Jan. 8 vs. Santa Clara*, TBA
Jan. 13 at San Diego*, TBA
Jan. 15 at Pepperdine*, TBA
Jan. 20 vs. San Francisco*, TBA
Jan. 22 at BYU*, TBA
Jan. 27 vs. Pacific*, TBA
Jan. 29 at Gonzaga*, TBA
Feb. 3 vs. Saint Mary's*^, TBA (WBB vs. BYU, TBA)
Feb. 5 at San Francisco*, TBA
Feb. 12 vs. LMU*, TBA
Feb. 17 vs. San Diego*, TBA
Feb. 19 vs. Pepperdine*, TBA
Feb. 24 at Pacific*, TBA
Feb. 26 at Santa Clara*, TBA

Mar. 3-8 UCU WCC Championships (Las Vegas)

Home games in BOLD
*Indicates WCC game
^Indicates doubleheader

Copyright

2021 University of Portland Athletic

by Dean Murdoch Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:27 pm

Only one non-D1 game!! Things are looking up!

by Geezaldinho Mon Aug 09, 2021 12:34 am

Dean Murdoch wrote:Only one non-D1 game!! Things are looking up!

I dunno.

Opening up with a team that was undefeated last year sounds risky.

by DoubleDipper Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:11 am

Dean Murdoch wrote:Only one non-D1 game!! Things are looking up!

We hope!

We are told D3 Trinity is no longer part of the Thanksgiving tournament in San Antonio that includes UP, Incarnate Word, and SE Missouri State.

Apparently the search is now on for one more team, but it might be kind of late to find a D1 participant...fingers crossed.

by up7587 Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:43 pm

Two Saturday games to open the WCC schedule, including New Years Day, a football day. Then none for 4 weeks, then 2 Saturdays to close the schedule. Yuck.

by Dean Murdoch Mon Aug 09, 2021 3:23 pm

up7587 wrote:Two Saturday games to open the WCC schedule, including New Years Day, a football day. Then none for 4 weeks, then 2 Saturdays to close the schedule. Yuck.

What's wrong with Saturday games? Hasn't the WCC played Thurs/Sat for years?

by up7587 Mon Aug 09, 2021 5:02 pm

Dean Murdoch wrote:
up7587 wrote:Two Saturday games to open the WCC schedule, including New Years Day, a football day. Then none for 4 weeks, then 2 Saturdays to close the schedule. Yuck.

What's wrong with Saturday games? Hasn't the WCC played Thurs/Sat for years?

Saturday games are great. I was complaining about the distribution of Saturday games, when the most fans, and kids, will be in attendance. New Years Day is an awful day for getting casual fans to attend. Bowl games, parties, etc. One more Saturday game the next week, then a long stretch of no Saturday games until the end of the season. I'd prefer them to be spaced out throughout the season, approximately every other week. Get fans coming more often. If the team is in the cellar by late February, what's the draw for those casual fans?

(I've been told I can find the downside of any situation, but it just struck me that this schedule is not favorable for getting casual fans into Chiles.)

by Dean Murdoch Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:21 pm

Gotcha. Sorry, thought you didn’t like the Saturday games.

If the Pilots have a halfway decent non-conf I’ll bring a crew down to watch the BYU game on New Year’s Day. About time for my quinquennial trip back down to Chiles anyway.

by DoubleDipper Mon Aug 09, 2021 8:21 pm

Dean Murdoch wrote:If the Pilots have a halfway decent non-conf I’ll bring a crew down to watch the BYU game on New Year’s Day.

What will it take to pack your bag? 10-5? 11-4?

(Have you discussed this with your family??) Razz

by Dean Murdoch Tue Aug 10, 2021 9:41 am

(I screwed up this post)

by Dean Murdoch Wed Aug 18, 2021 1:59 pm

Dean Murdoch wrote:If we're talking how many wins the Pilots will get in non-conference, I'd think the analytics sites won't like the Pilots for more than 8 or 9 given this schedule.

barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Portland&year=2022

I know, I know. It's still mid-August and there's still an open scholarship.

Schedules have been input into the above page and the first record projections are available. It's not pretty for #293 Portland... 8-20 overall, 2-14 in WCC. They don't have the UIW tournament in yet, and that will almost certainly bump their projected overall record to 10-21.

Good thing the games aren't played on some device in a basement somewhere Wink

by DoubleDipper Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:50 am

Dean Murdoch wrote:
barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Portland&year=2022

Schedules have been input into the above page and the first record projections are available. It's not pretty for #293 Portland... 8-20 overall, 2-14 in WCC.

Good thing the games aren't played on some device in a basement somewhere

Based purely on barttorvik.com and a device in the basemen, UP is better than only 3 of its opponents this coming season...

UP Ranked #292

Arizona State #59
Willamette
Alcorn State #338
Arkansas Pine-Bluff #355
Morgan State #208
Portland State #204
~~TBD~~ Montana St. #223
SE Missouri St. #246
Incarnate Word #318
VMI #210
Cal Poly #286
Oregon #39
San Jose State #269
Montana State #223
UC Davis #232

Gonzaga #1
St. Mary’s #37
BYU #40
USF #50
LMU #63
Santa Clara #110
Pacific #128
San Diego #158
Pepperdine #183
UP #292

by Dean Murdoch Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:01 am

DoubleDipper wrote:Gonzaga #1
St. Mary’s #37
BYU #40
USF #50
LMU #63
Santa Clara #110
Pacific #128
San Diego #158
Pepperdine #183
UP #292

Could this be the best year ever for the WCC?

by DoubleDipper Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:36 am

Dean Murdoch wrote:
DoubleDipper wrote:Gonzaga #1
St. Mary’s #37
BYU #40
USF #50
LMU #63
Santa Clara #110
Pacific #128
San Diego #158
Pepperdine #183
UP #292

Could this be the best year ever for the WCC?

Perhaps, but subtracting UP from the equation, the WCC finished strong this past season too…according to barttorvik.com

Gonzaga #1
BYU #25
St. Mary’s #76
Pepperdine #87
LMU #99
USF #103
Pacific #112
Santa Clara #132
San Diego #183
UP #304

KenPom had the WCC finishing as the #8 conference behind the Power Six and the AAC this past season (there are 32 conferences). Without UP, the WCC would have been #7!

by DoubleDipper Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:08 am

DoubleDipper wrote:
Dean Murdoch wrote:Only one non-D1 game!! Things are looking up!
We hope!

We are told D3 Trinity is no longer part of the Thanksgiving tournament in San Antonio that includes UP, Incarnate Word, and SE Missouri State.

Apparently the search is now on for one more team, but it might be kind of late to find a D1 participant...fingers crossed.

The schedule is now complete, and UP will be playing a D1 school.

The Pilots will open the San Antonio tournament against Montana St. on November 26 before facing the Bobcats again in Bozeman on December 19 before taking a few days off at Christmas and facing BYU at home on New Year's Day.

by Dean Murdoch Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:46 pm

https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Portland

Bart Torvik’s projections now include the UIW tournament. 9-22 overall? I’ll take the over, thank you very much.

by StudentPilot Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:52 am

It seems to me the Pilots have generally played two exhibition games prior to the start of the season, but this year just one.

Does that mean UP will play a "secret scrimmage" against someone? bounce

by Dean Murdoch Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:56 am

StudentPilot wrote:It seems to me the Pilots have generally played two exhibition games prior to the start of the season, but this year just one.

Does that mean UP will play a "secret scrimmage" against someone?

Can’t be that secret… at home against Seattle on Oct 23!

by DoubleDipper Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:55 am

Dean Murdoch wrote:Can’t be that secret… at home against Seattle on Oct 23!

To keep the "secret" games secret they must be closed to the public and the two participating schools are not allowed to publicize them, meaning no fans or media are allowed...and as Deaner is not officially part of either school, he could spill the beans about the game against Seattle U. Laughing

As most will recall, Coach Legans was the assistant to the current head coach at Seattle U. when they were both at EWU.

NCAA rules allow D1 teams to play up to two exhibition games against non-D1 opponents or one exhibition game and a preseason “secret scrimmage” between D1 teams.

by StudentPilot Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:01 am

Hmm, I wonder if I were to put on a UP maintenance shirt and trousers and carry around a spool of cable as if I was replacing the sound system in the Chiles Center I could "observe" the scrimmage.

Worth a try? tongue

by Dean Murdoch Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:45 am

I think someone managed to get full stats from the scrimmage the Pilots had against either UO or OSU at the Nike campus a few years back. Maybe I’ll have someone rummage through Chiles Center trash cans the next day to find them this year Wink

by Oldguyfan Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:28 pm

Is anybody in this forum able to attend the Seattle U game so we can get a recap?

by StudentPilot Tue Oct 05, 2021 1:51 pm

Oldguyfan wrote:Is anybody in this forum able to attend the Seattle U game so we can get a recap?

From the description of a "secret scrimmage," I would say no, but there will be game staff including referees, so maybe we can buy someone few beers to get them to start talking. drunken

Although, if we are all wearing masks... Rolling Eyes

by DoubleDipper Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:29 am

Just 29 days before the Pilots play the Sun Devils in Tempe, but 3 weeks from today at 7pm UP hosts the Lewis & Clark Pioneers and former Pilot Brian Smith in the only exhibition game this year.