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Post by Geezaldinho Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:41 pm

This one was kind of a walk-over as UP outscored the UofO 7 -0.( <edit>8-0)

Same players and minutes as last time, and virtually the same substitutions with a couple of exceptions.

The scoring started with a score by Kendall on a cross from Jessica which went through Danielle's legs as she was standing about 12 yards out in front. Kendall crashing in caught the defense napping.

Jessica scored a bit later on a header off a Foxhoven corner kick which went past everyone but Jessica camped on the corner of the 6 yd box.

Danielle then scored at the tail end of a bunch of rebounds off the keeper and the defence which included shots by Kendall, Halley, and possibly Keelin before DaFox stuck it home.

in the second half, Ellen Parker and Sarah Jackman came in at the start followed by Elinore Priest a bit later. This was pretty much the same pattern they followed the last several games.

The UofO kids tried to toughen up a bit in the second half which resulted in players getting banged up a bit. Sophie got a cut on the bridge of the nose which resulted in her going out, I think for stitches. at any rate, she left the field environs.


A minute or two later Halley also took one to the face. and a UofO player got a yellow for taking down Kendall on the wing. I didn't see the fowl foul, because it was behind some hedges from where I sat, but I suspect the ref decided it was time to calm things down.

Retaliation was by way of scoring. I'm a little unclear about the next goal. Either Jess made a good shot from a tough angle or Danielle redirected it just before it went in. There was a bit of a crowd obstructing my view of it.


a couple of minutes later, Danielle got taken down from behind on a breakaway in the box and scored on the resulting PK kick. UofO fans felt it shouldn't have been a foul because the defender got a piece of the ball. (Perhaps SoreKnees can enlighten us on legal and illegal tackles from behind)


Halley scored next on a cross from the left side, then Keelin closed out the scoring on a cross from Kendall.


I think that was it. Is that seven? It could have been more. The offence looked in high gear, the possession in the midfield looked good, and the defense looked as good as it has all Spring. The CD's weren't really tested as much as the last game.

Early in the game, MO made a couple of nice stops on her way to recording her third shutout in four games. She now sports a .5 GAA.


Uof O looked pretty good in the midfield, (at least they were aggressive) but the back line suffered under the UP pressure and thru balls, and the UofO front line didn't have enough support to seriously threaten. they seemed right-side oriented, but whether you are attacking Elli and Kendall, or Taylor and Jess, you are going to lose those matchups. Going through Sophie and Keelin doesn't seem any better.

Danielle in particular, but all the attackers, also seemed very good in tracking back and applying pressure, which eased the burden on the defenders.


One game left. It's the u23's April 25 at 11:00AM - again at Ronaldo Field.


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Post by jc Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:58 pm

Thanks, Geezer, for the informative summary. I'm sure others like myself who could not attend appreciate it.
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Post by Geezaldinho Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:18 pm

On the Foxhoven takedown in the box, I'll quote the USSF PDF on cautionable offenses.

A player commits a direct free kick foul while tackling for the ball from behind without
endangering the safety of an opponent (ATR 12.28.1)


http://www.ussoccer.com/Referees/~/media/DE40DEB93E6843F1BDC38DF6E0E95D80.ashx

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Post by A_Fan Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:07 pm

Good find. I thought those Duck fans were incorrect and you were right, but I'm glad for the verification.

One player that we've not seen on the field much in her first two years is Emma Nelson. This spring she is playing a lot and gaining confidence. She has exceptional speed which is good to see in the back line.
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Post by Geezaldinho Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:16 pm

Actually, a little further searching shows FIFA changed the laws since 2006 to read

A tackle, which endangers the safety of an opponent, must be sanctioned as serious foul play.

(All you English grads out there (Stoney? you reading this?) will have noticed that the FIFA translation used 'which' after the word tackle rather than 'that'.
This changes the meaning but that's another story. The USSF instructions to referees hasn't changed, though.)

and FIFA further explains the offense as:
making contact with an opponent before touching the ball when tackling an opponent to gain possession of the ball (Note: it is always a foul if the tackler contacts the ballhandler before touching the ball. However, it can still be a direct kick foul if the ball is touched first but the tackler was "careless, reckless, or used excessive force" and was judged to have kicked, tripped, charged or jumped at the ballhandler. Or, if the Referee believes the tackler played in a "dangerous manner", an indirect kick can be awarded),

so it doesn't matter much which direction it comes from anymore. But for a ref, a tackle from behind is a 99% call as being dangerous, especially if you take the players legs out and it's on a breakaway. That was the guy's easiest call of the day.

My point with the Duck fans was that touching the ball doesn't absolve you. whether you touch the ball, or gain possession, it's still a foul.
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Post by ohhh_yeah Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:51 pm

By my count there was 8 goals and Foxhoven got a hat trick. I will talk more about the match later and post some different photos. I do have some bad news though. Sophie did not just get a cut on her nose. Her nose got broken. It was painful to watch the collision and even more painful to see her after she got up. I hope she has a fast and a pain free as possible recovery.

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Post by Geezaldinho Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:12 am

ohhh_yeah wrote:By my count there was 8 goals and Foxhoven got a hat trick. I will talk more about the match later and post some different photos. I do have some bad news though. Sophie did not just get a cut on her nose. Her nose got broken. It was painful to watch the collision and even more painful to see her after she got up. I hope she has a fast and a pain free as possible recovery.

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Bad news about Sophie. It didn't look pretty.


I think you are right about the eighth goal. As I left I asked a couple guys their count, and they said seven. My notes show a Danielle goal after the last one I mentioned in the first half off a cross, but I wasn't sure whether it was a goal or just a try, or whether they were the same goal. In the first half I wrote down both, and I guess I was writing too fast to clearly discern the goals from the shots. I also have a note that said that Halley might have scored a goal near then. There were a lot of shots.

did Jess score that goal from out wide, or did Dani tip it?


Never trust old people. 8-0 is the final.
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Post by SoreKnees Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:32 am

I'm late to the discussion, but you've basically covered the essential points of tackles from behind, Geezer.

I think it's safe to say that referees tend to be more skeptical of tackles from behind than of other tackles because they are more likely to be dangerous and less likely to be cleanly taken. That said, it's certainly possible to make a perfectly clean tackle from behind, getting the ball and only incidentally (and not dangerously) making contact with the player after the ball has been played.
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