Alec Wintering, The Best Pilot Guard?

by wrv Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:18 am

Cannot imagine there is too much to debate about our point being one of the best ever to play the position(or any other) in Pilot history. An argument can be made that he is the best . . . better than Pooh Jeter, maybe to be considered with Darwin Cook and Jose Slaughter. Guards that come readily to mind that have played either guard position for the Pilots:

Alec Wintering
Kevin Bailey
Jared Stohl
TJ Campbell
Nik Ravio
Pooh Jeter
Chivo Anderson
Darrin Cooper
Greg Anthony
Darwin Cook
Jose Slaughter

In order of quality of play and effectiveness where would you place Alec?

I do not think Alec will be drafted, but can we exclude the possibility?

Impressive run Alec Wintering. Enjoyable to watch.

by Guest Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:06 pm

I'll have to look at they list of HOF players to see what other guards from he old days are listed. G. Anthony was very good, but leaving after one season lets Alec eclipse him. How about Erik Spoelstra?

by SoCalPilot Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:12 pm

1. Darwin Cook
2. Jose Slaughter
3. Alec Wintering

Alec is on pace to overtake Jose, but will likely fall short of Darwin, whose huge game against top-ranked USF and lengthy NBA career will be tough to match. That said, Alec's play of late has been outstanding.

by pilotdad1 Sun Feb 07, 2016 10:42 pm

I dont have the history to speak on many of those on the list but I have seen a couple and think Alec can hold his own. That said, within recent history I give you this

1 Nik Ravio This kid can flat out play, I think he is better than his brother who played at GU. Nik continues to play at a very high level in Europe and his size and strength makes him a very tough guard at the point.

2 Alec Wintering Considering he is vastly undersized, Alec has a great set of tools in his arsenal and more importantly has superb court awareness. When Rhino was playing the one thing his teams lacked was an experienced PG. First Timmy as a freshman, then Rogers (who wasnt really a D1 player), then Alec as a freshman. But even in his freshman year it was evident that Alec was going to be a great player.

3 TJ Campbell TJ was a strong, quick and headsy player who was surrounded by All League talent. It allowed him to be a leader with the ball in his hands as those around him were more than capable of finishing with his distribution.

by wrv Mon Feb 08, 2016 7:09 am

FWIW, for my money the four best have been mentioned by SocalPilot and Pilotdad1. Though I think a great deal of TJ, I place him a notch below Cook, Slaughter, Nik Ravio and Alec. Chivo Anderson was something in his last two years here and one of my favorites.

Nice observation about Nik and his brother which I also think is true. Still cannot believe that Holton would not offer Nik. Whatever is said about Reveno’s future, he had the sense to immediately offer Nik.

There have been some really good guards. Wintering’s performance this year in particular has earned him the right to be discussed with the best.

by **PilotNut** Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:07 pm

Congrats, Alec!

Wintering Earns WCC, National Weekly Honors

SAN BRUNO, Calif. – Portland junior point guard Alec Wintering garnered various weekly awards after leading the Pilots to a road sweep of Pepperdine and Loyola Marymount last week. Wintering picked up his second West Coast Conference Player of the Week honor this season and also earned national recognition.

The Charlotte, N.C. native was named the CollegeSportsMadness.com National High-Major Player of the Week and the CollegeCourtReport.com National Mid-Major Player of the Week. CollegeInsider.com’s Angela Lento also named Wintering to her weekly top five performance list among all mid-majors.

Wintering averaged 24.0 points, 7.0 rebounds and 6.5 assists in the two road wins. He scored 19 points, grabbed seven rebounds and dished out six assists in Portland’s 73-70 upset win over Pepperdine on national television Thursday night. Wintering drilled the go-ahead three-pointer with the Pilots trailing by one and 1:06 left in regulation to hand the Waves their first home loss of the season.

He then erupted for 29 points, seven rebounds and seven assists in a 92-78 win at Loyola Marymount on Saturday.

Wintering shot 59 percent from the field, made 7-of-12 three-pointers and 7-of-8 free throws in the two victories. The road sweep was the first for the Pilots over Pepperdine and LMU since 2009.

The three-year starting point guard earlier earned WCC weekly honors on December 28 after leading the Pilots to a home sweep of Pepperdine and LMU. He erupted for a career-high 34 points in the win over the Waves.

Wintering ranks fourth overall this season in scoring at 19.0 points per game, but that production has increased in league play to 22.5 points per game. He trails only Gonzaga’s Kyle Wiltjer (22. in scoring during WCC games.

Wintering also ranks second in the league in steals (1.7) and fifth in both assists (5.5) and three-point percentage (.438).

He already ranks 24th in Portland school history in career scoring (1,106), third in three-point percentage (.429), fifth in assists (452) and seventh in steals (137).

Wintering and the Pilots will look to extend their win streak when the Gonzaga Bulldogs visit the Chiles Center for another nationally televised game on Thursday. The game will be aired live on ESPNU with tip-off at 8 p.m.

by DoubleDipper Mon Feb 08, 2016 4:41 pm

I know it was the middle of the night in some parts of the US when PU hosted UP, but anytime your team can be seen on any of the ESPN stations, there's bound to be more people noticing your performance.

Congratulations to Alec.

I've been watching Pilots basketball since 1962, and I do not recall a guard who has been more important to his team than Alec. Whether he's the best all-time individual performer at the guard spot at UP may be up for debate, but all the other top guards I can think of had a better supporting cast.....especially in the front court.

by **PilotNut** Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:05 pm

DoubleDipper wrote: I do not recall a guard who has been more important to his team than Alec. Whether he's the best all-time individual performer at the guard spot at UP may be up for debate, but all the other top guards I can think of had a better supporting cast.....especially in the front court.

I agree 100% ... absolutely the "most MVP" of all the guards I can remember.

by Guest Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:22 pm

Is "twenty-two point cool" a lot of points? geek

I am sure Coach Few has mentioned Alec's name a couple times this week.

by DoubleDipper Thu Aug 18, 2016 2:34 pm

College Court Report, “The Canadian-based NCAA college basketball website,” has listed its top 100 college basketball players for the upcoming season…..16 of the players are from conferences in the western US…..10 are from the Pac-12 (four from UO), there are five from the WCC (three from GU, and one each from BYU and UP), and there’s one from the Big Sky:

1. Ivan Rabb– Cal
3. Dillon Brooks – Oregon
14. Tyler Dorsey – Oregon
20. Nigel Williams-Goss – Gonzaga
22. Chris Boucher – Oregon
25. Nick Emery – BYU
34. Jordan McLaughlin – USC
44. Jordan Mathews – Gonzaga
54. Allonzo Trier – Arizona
55. Jordan Bell – Oregon
65. Josh Hawkinson – Washington State
76. Alec Wintering – Portland

“One of the most underappreciated guards in the entire country is Alec Wintering. He’s averaged at least 4.5 assists and 1.5 steals per game in each of his first three seasons, and set a career-high with 18.3 points per game as a junior in 2015-16. He can shoot the ball well from long distance (39.8% in 15-16), and has the basketball IQ and court vision to hurt you without having to shoot. Consider Wintering a sleeper for WCC Player of the Year.”

79. Przemek Karnowski – Gonzaga
80. Bennie Boatwright – USC
82. Bryce Alford – UCLA
98. Ethan Telfair – Idaho State

https://collegecourtreport.com/2016/08/15/top-100-players-in-college-basketball-for-the-2016-17-season/

by DoubleDipper Sat Sep 17, 2016 9:02 am

The Hoops Column wrote: He will lead his team next season looking to improve from 12-20 to make a run at a conference championship.

http://www.thehoopscolumn.com/2016/08/24/non-power-5-conference-guards-to-watch-pt-2/16/

by wrv Sat Sep 17, 2016 1:30 pm

Sad part is Alec haas only one year remaining.

by StudentPilot Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:05 pm

Good article from UP student, Ben Arthur, about student-athletes, Alec and Jazz:

http://www.upbeacon.com/article/2017/01/tall-standards-despite-being-undersized-wintering-and-johnson-are-one-of-the-top-scoring

And in case you didn't see it, the Alec and Jazz segment on Portside With the Pilots:

by Dean Murdoch Sat Jan 21, 2017 2:22 pm

@PortlandPilots wrote:MBB: Alec Wintering has suffered a season-ending torn ACL. He will go down as one of the @PilotHoops greats.

Unbelievable. I'm devastated for this kid...he has been an absolute treat to watch for the past 4 years and it's completely unfair for his career to end this way.

by DoubleDipper Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:00 pm

Statement from Alec Wintering:
I would like to thank the University of Portland, the faculty and staff, and the great student body. A special thank you to the University sports staff and trainers, and the coaches I have had the opportunity to learn and play under. I would like to mention Coach Porter personally. I valued every opportunity to take the court with him as my coach and the future is bright for UP basketball. To my brothers, the teammates who have shared this journey, thank you! All these people have worked to make my life easier as a student athlete. With that being said my collegiate basketball career has come to an end. I appreciate the UP community for embracing me, and what a special four years it was on The Bluff. I was given an opportunity here, made the most of it, and played every game as if it were my one and only! I will continue to be a part of the team and cheer on my brothers every night, doing all I can to be a leader and continuing to build the basketball program. While my college career is over, the future is bright. Thank you all!

by DoubleDipper Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:03 pm

A few highlights:

by **PilotNut** Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:07 pm

Ugh... such unfortunate news today. Thank you, Alec for all you have done for the Pilots and I wish you a full recovery and bright future.

by HRZag Sun Jan 22, 2017 6:01 am

Just an old Zag here, but I do follow the Pilots some and I was really saddened when I heard the news on Alec. He was a fun kid to watch. Skilled and fearless and was respected throughout the league.

Hope his recovery goes well. He's got some basketball left in him.

Godspeed.

by bullwinkle Sun Jan 22, 2017 11:44 pm

I remember when Alec was a freshman and I read (and agreed) with the excited posts about his ball handling and how few turnovers he committed. He was a delight to watch every game and you just knew he was going to get better every year. This year seemed like his most challenging after being recognized across the conference for his ability - and still he stepped up his game and delivered. He was definitely the best Pilot I've seen in the 15 years I've been watching. I wish him all the best. We're gonna miss him.

by wrv Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:14 am

Gracious declarations from Alex and from Coach Porter were nice to read.

Good luck to Alex.

I certainly enjoyed watching him play many games.

Does anyone have more detail on when the injury occurred?

by DoubleDipper Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:35 am

wrv wrote:Does anyone have more detail on when the injury occurred?

From the Portland Tribune: The injury happened in the second half at USF. Wintering went up for a shot after coming to a two-footed jump stop. The knee hurt right away, but after resting for a few minutes Wintering returned to play four more minutes and hit one jumper and a couple of foul shots.

Wintering says he became more concerned about the injury on Friday when the knee stiffened up.

Alec is being a lot more philosophical about his injury than the rest of us:

Wintering says he has always wanted to coach when his playing career ends. He's viewing this twist of fate as an early internship opportunity.

"Sitting on the bench, you get a different point of view," he says. "I can share things I see with them and give them as much help as I can."
http://portlandtribune.com/pt/12-sports/341412-221656-pilots-wintering-takes-knee-injury-in-stride-

by blacksheep Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:09 am

Yeah, when I saw it happen, it didn't look good. It was one of the those non contact pivot injuries that are typical of ACL's. It says a lot about his toughness to come right back into the game!

by Woodless 2.0 Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:49 pm

Y'all misspelled Ryan Jones.

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