Re: New Women's Pro League!

by Geezaldinho Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:02 pm

Here is what Diccico said:

"It's awesome to have her get this chance. I think she'll learn a lot, and I think she'll be really good."

It unfortunately echos what was said about John Spencer when he was hired.

Learn a lot?

You learn from mistakes. I was sort of hoping we would get somebody who had already made the mistakes and the team could hit the ground running.

by DoubleDipper Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:21 pm

Bygones!

The hire has been made....what Cindy and the Thorns (has kind of a nice ring to it) need now is time to settle in and get to work....just as soon as we find out who the Thorns are!

I'm all for Cindy....until I'm not! pirat

by UPSoccerFanatic Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:14 pm

I think this is a smart move. The new league is trying to be as cost-effective as possible. This is a good move for Cindy and, that being the case, I'm betting she is not going to cost them a lot of money. I always liked her as a player. If I recall correctly, she ended her career early due to injuries (concussions?). I'm guessing that she knows a lot of the current players and is well liked by them. These might not be criteria one ordinarily would want for a coach, but the first order of business is for the league's teams to survive economically and that means there are a lot of constraints. So, to me this looks lean and mean, and I like it that way.

by DoubleDipper Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:04 pm

Well said, UPSF.

Yes, it was concussions, or what is now called concussion syndrome, I believe. She was only in her late 20's when she had to call it quits….it's one of the sad fact of sports as we’ve become more aware of the consequences of head injuries.

We have been rather spoiled with our outstanding coaches here at UP....they all started somewhere....and now Cindy too is getting her (professional) coaching start.

She and her team may make mistakes, but I bet they’ll be of the aggressive kind, not passive. pirat

by **DaTruRochin** Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:22 pm

If she was a NW style coach she'd be passive-aggressive. Duck!

by Geezaldinho Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:28 pm

Here's a question.

What does this have to do with football or Seattle?

New Women's Pro League! - Page 6 Seattl10

by **DaTruRochin** Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:17 pm

Shawn Kemp wanted to be a mascot?
It rains there a lot?
Mount Rainier is pretty significant?
It is blue like the Puget Sound wishes it was?

by Indigo Kid Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:35 am

Former Seattle ABL Team name. New name and logo for the NWSL.

by Geezaldinho Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:36 am

Indigo Kid wrote:Former Seattle ABL Team name.

Or...

New Women's Pro League! - Page 6 D0dfe9960dd45caa072a6a08aafb8495

Who could forget the team where Ha_Seung-Jin got his start?

by Indigo Kid Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:41 am

Geez, that was so forgetable!

by Dan No Yell Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:13 pm

People hopefully are realizing how good the Thorn's logo is, and how bad it could have been.

That Reign logo is awful, everything about it, the is nothing to be salvaged.
The iconography is both religious and male.

Total fail.

by Geezaldinho Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:06 am

Yeah, but today they got an experienced coach who lead her Arsenal FC team to three British FA titles.

A couple days after announcing its name and logo, Seattle Reign FC of the new National Women's Soccer League has a head coach: Laura Harvey, who has coached the Arsenal Ladies since midway through the 2009/10 season.

Harvey led Arsenal to three-straight league titles -- 2009/10 in the FA Women's Premier League and then in 2010/11 and 2011/12 once the top tier became the FA Women's Super League.

The Gunners won three trophies in 2011 when you include the FA Women's Cup and FA WSL Continental Cup, which led to Harvey being named FA WSL Coach of the Year. Arsenal won the Continental Cup again this past season for a total of six trophies under her leadership.

The 32 year old also served as an assistant coach for the England Women's national team from 2005-2011 at the U-17, U-19 and U-23 levels.

"As a proven winner with the ability to bring the best out of each player, Laura is the type of coach that a player wants to play for," said general manager Amy Carnell in a news release. "Having managed some of the world's best at Arsenal and within the English National Team system, she is composed under pressure and clearly understands what it takes to bring home a championship."

Harvey played professionally with the Wolverhampton Wanderers and then at Birmingham City Ladies FC, which is also where her coaching career started, first as an assistant from 2002-06 and then as head coach from 2006-08. She joined Arsenal's staff in 2008.

"I'm excited for the new challenge ahead. ... The ambitions of the club were something that interested me in making the move," Harvey said in the release. "As a club we will be trying to establish ourselves as a leader within the new league, whilst trying to build a long term future for Seattle Reign FC. The future is an exciting one for everyone involved at Seattle Reign FC."

http://seattletimes.com/html/soundersfcblog/2019953214_reign_fc_hires_laura_harvey_of.html

by A_Fan Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:42 am

At first blush it sure looks like Seattle made a better coaching choice than Portland.

The KC paper this morning indicates the college draft will be January 18th with 4 rounds. The order of selection to be determined by a draw.

by onetouchfutbol Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:30 pm

PurpleGeezer wrote:Yeah, but today they got an experienced coach who lead her Arsenal FC team to three British FA titles.

A couple days after announcing its name and logo, Seattle Reign FC of the new National Women's Soccer League has a head coach: Laura Harvey, who has coached the Arsenal Ladies since midway through the 2009/10 season.

Harvey led Arsenal to three-straight league titles -- 2009/10 in the FA Women's Premier League and then in 2010/11 and 2011/12 once the top tier became the FA Women's Super League.

The Gunners won three trophies in 2011 when you include the FA Women's Cup and FA WSL Continental Cup, which led to Harvey being named FA WSL Coach of the Year. Arsenal won the Continental Cup again this past season for a total of six trophies under her leadership.

The 32 year old also served as an assistant coach for the England Women's national team from 2005-2011 at the U-17, U-19 and U-23 levels.

"As a proven winner with the ability to bring the best out of each player, Laura is the type of coach that a player wants to play for," said general manager Amy Carnell in a news release. "Having managed some of the world's best at Arsenal and within the English National Team system, she is composed under pressure and clearly understands what it takes to bring home a championship."

Harvey played professionally with the Wolverhampton Wanderers and then at Birmingham City Ladies FC, which is also where her coaching career started, first as an assistant from 2002-06 and then as head coach from 2006-08. She joined Arsenal's staff in 2008.

"I'm excited for the new challenge ahead. ... The ambitions of the club were something that interested me in making the move," Harvey said in the release. "As a club we will be trying to establish ourselves as a leader within the new league, whilst trying to build a long term future for Seattle Reign FC. The future is an exciting one for everyone involved at Seattle Reign FC."

http://seattletimes.com/html/soundersfcblog/2019953214_reign_fc_hires_laura_harvey_of.html

I think that Michelle French would have been a better choice, and would have shown that last year´s results meant something. England can claim that their men´s team has a richer history than ours, but, on the women´s side of the sport we own them. I will support the team as a local here in Seattle, but, I´m very disappointed...

by Geezaldinho Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:20 pm

A_Fan wrote:At first blush it sure looks like Seattle made a better coaching choice than Portland.

The KC paper this morning indicates the college draft will be January 18th with 4 rounds. The order of selection to be determined by a draw.

Only players who used up their eligibility In the last year and before Dec 31 will be considered. other players who have been out of school for longer periods will be dealt with as free agents.

before that, the 56 players from the three associations (24 USA, 16 CA, 16 MX) will be allocated. I think each player gets to have a first, second, and third choice. I'm betting seniority plays a big role here. also, relocation and housing expenses for players who move away from home cities will no doubt be factored in.

by A_Fan Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:21 pm

Do you think there will be some sort of regional factor involved like there used to be in the NBA?

by Geezaldinho Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:20 pm

ah! The NBA territorial pick. I miss that.

For you youngsters, until 1966 teams could forego their first round pick and instead claim a local player from a home or college within 50 miles. Not many players were actually claimed that way, but territorial picks included Wilt Chamberland, Oscar Robertson, Jerry Lucas, and Tom Heinson. The idea was to raise local interest back when College ball ruled.

No,I haven't seen that there will be such a pick, The only mention was a blind draw. There might, however, be a consideration of getting local players to save moving and housing expenses, all else being equal.

And Merrit, at least, is quoted as saying he would like to get players with ties to the area.

by Tahira99 Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:47 am

women,s soccer is only famous in europen countries and not a open in Asian countries.But few years ago this game is well established in Asian countries .A no of teams developed in soccer women,s.I hope next few years after great teams football in Asian countries.

by A_Fan Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:21 am

Growing up in LA and being UCLA fans we were thrilled when the Lakers drafted Walt Hazzard in1964 and the next year Gail Goodrich, both with territorial picks. We were very disappointed that the territorial pick was discontinued after 1965 as the Lakers would have been loaded with Bruins had it continued.

by Geezaldinho Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:56 am

Tahira99 wrote:women,s soccer is only famous in europen countries and not a open in Asian countries.But few years ago this game is well established in Asian countries .A no of teams developed in soccer women,s.I hope next few years after great teams football in Asian countries.

Well, in the mid 1990's both Tiffeny Milbrett and Shannon Macmillan went to Japan to play after college because there were better playing opportunities. She played for Shiroki Serena in the Women's J League in 1995-1996-1997 and was joined there by Shannon for the last year or two of that stint.

There really was no place for women to play other than the National team after college in the USA back then .

by Geezaldinho Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:22 am

A_Fan wrote:Growing up in LA and being UCLA fans we were thrilled when the Lakers drafted Walt Hazzard in1964 and the next year Gail Goodrich, both with territorial picks. We were very disappointed that the territorial pick was discontinued after 1965 as the Lakers would have been loaded with Bruins had it continued.

I grew up in the NY area and the pick I remember was Bill Bradley, who was at the core of a couple championships. But you only got a shot at one territorial pick a year, so LA would have had a tough choice each year for their territorial pick. Great players came out of Wooden's program in waves.

But the Knicks never got any of them. Their stars came from places like Princeton, (Bradley) , Southern Illinois ( Walt Frazier) , Grambling State ( Willis Reed), Tennessee State ( Dick " fall back, baby" Barnett) , and Detroit ( Dave Debusshere).

by A_Fan Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:32 pm

Those picks were no slouches! FBB was a Laker for a while too.

by Geezaldinho Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:44 pm

A_Fan wrote:Those picks were no slouches! FBB was a Laker for a while too.

And Debusshere was a territorial pick for the Pistons. He played Baseball, too, and the Pistons didn't like it, so they traded him. The Knicks announced he was coming to NY during a Rangers Hockey game at Madison Square Garden and the whole crowd stood and cheered. ( Rangers won the game, too.) Fans figured (rightly) that he was the missing piece to the Championship puzzle.

I remember the Ranger tickets cost $4, almost twice what it cost to get into a Mets game in 1969.

by saebo98661 Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:45 pm

Everything hints that all of the NWSL teams will get a better understanding of the national team players on their rosters in the coming week. Who do you think will be the players on the Portland team? Wambach, Rapinoe, Winters, Sinclair, Schmidt,.....?

by Harry Redknapp Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:20 pm

I'd love to see the UP alumnae. But please spare us the sad sight of Abby Wambach in a Portland shirt. She's never had much in the way of finesse but I watched the USA-Ireland game at Jeld-Wen and her first touch was astonishly bad. Just shocking.